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 30/10/2003, 8:36 PM
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Fred H
Joined on 13/09/2003
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Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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A few years ago my wife worked in Rosebys the shop up St Giles formally Brentford Nylons, and now occupied by The Foton Shop,It was a thing with all new staff not to know of strange goings ons in the back rooms namely the storeroom, office and loos,my wife also was not told of this, but soon got the strange feeling of not being alone, nothing was seen but a presence was felt, after talking to other members of staff she soon found out that they called her Mary and she meant no harm,the day came when a new member of staff started and things again were kept quiet, but soon the new employee started asking questions ( she felt that someone was standing behind her) she too was then told not to worry as no harm would come, but she refused to go to the loo on her own,I have been in this office when my wife was locking up for the night and everything is neat and tidy only to find the next day paperwork on the floor,i must admit it was creepy out there but i knew the story, to be called out because the alarms had gone off in the middle of the night was very creepy as the main light switch was at the back of the storeroom so walking the length of the shop floor was a bit unnerving to say the least. as this shop is now a different company altogether it would be interesting to know if they have felt the presence of Mary, who she was, and why there we don,t know, maybe something to do with the old Hipperdrome which stood roughly on this site.
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24/03/2008, 4:55 PM
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FredH
Joined on 05/04/2004
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Found this old post of mine, thought i would bring it out again now their are more readers on here.
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24/03/2008, 7:25 PM
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Eddie Mallett
Joined on 11/01/2008
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Hi Fred
You said that many things had been moved durring the night after every thing had been neat & tidy from the night before. That would have been an amazing place to have set up an overnight video camera. To see just what was realy happening in the shop. Poltergeist activity is quite rare. To have seen things on video moving around on theire own accord would have been quite stunning. As well as darn good evidence for the sceptics to ponder over
It sounds realy interesting & amazing that the new employees felt the presence, even though they had no knowledge of the haunting.
I will agree that it would be good to see if the haunting is still on going, with the new firm.
Did you try & take any photos?
Best wishes
Eddie
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25/03/2008, 4:55 PM
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FredH
Joined on 05/04/2004
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Sorry no photos taken, and no we have never been back as the shop closed down, never bothered to visit the new store which went in the premises, its just a old post which i thought may interest you folk.
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01/04/2008, 9:56 PM
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dyingtotalk
 
Joined on 29/03/2006
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Hi,
Many years ago (too many years actually!!) I worked in the building a little further up the hill, which is on the other side of the entrance to the St Giles Street car park (next to the Classical Music shop - if it's still there) At the time, I was around 17, I had not developed my interest in the paranormal/spirit/healing etc., but right from the start I used to find myself stepping aside to make space for someone on the stairs - only to discover there was no-one there! I also regularly felt someone behind me at my desk - as if a colleague was waiting to speak, but there would also be nobody there when I turned round. I was near the end of a small row of desks, which ended at a wall, with clear vision in the other direction, and there was no time for anyone to get back out from behind the row of desks without being seen.
The 'scariest' experience though was one night when I was working late - there was no-one else that I know of in the building. I went to the loo on the way out, and whilst I was in the cubicle I heard the door from the corridor open, swing shut, and someone walk into the ladies room. I assumed it was a cleaner in early. The door didn't open again (it was a noisy door - which you couldn't open silently, and it had definitely swung shut when it opened the first time) So imagine my surprise when I opened the cubicle door and there was nobody there! I actually opened all the cubicle doors to check as I was so sure I had heard someone! Leaving all the cubicle doors open I washed my hands and just as I finished washing them - the two hand driers came on by themselves! They were the sort where you had to press a button to start them - not the sensor ones, and I was nowhere near them anyway. I suppose it could have been something electrical, although there had been no problems with the electricity that I was aware of- lights etc were all still on. However, the dryers would probably be on a separate circuit, so I would probably have put it down to that, if it hadn't been for the 'person' coming into the room earlier... and what had happened just before the dryers came on....
A few seconds before the dryers came on by themselves, all the toilet rolls in the cubicles behind me, (which I could see in the mirror, as I had left the doors open) suddenly began to unravel by themselves. So there I was, a ghost or spirit (?) toilet rolls unravelling, and hand dryers coming on by themselves. I hot footed it out of there, hands still wet - despite the fact that the dryers were going!!
Quite funny really, bearing in mind what I do now!!
I later found out that there was a story of a ghostly monk and some other spirits that were around the building - some of them from when the Hippodrome was in that area, and the monk was from many years previously, when there was apparently a monastery in that area. I've never actually checked that out though,
I also worked in St Giles House (which was converted into a Hotel) further up the street for several years. Although I never had an experience quite as interesting as my 'loo' experience, I was often aware of a 'presence' in several of the areas at the front of the house - the oldest area. When I get the time, I will try and find out if the monastery story is true.
An interesting street - like many in Norwich.
Pat
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02/04/2008, 10:51 PM
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spookfan
Joined on 10/07/2007
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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That was very interesting ...thanks for sharing!
spookfan
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11/04/2008, 7:49 PM
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Eddie Mallett
Joined on 11/01/2008
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Cheers Pat.
That must have been an amazing experience.
Yes the cassical music shop is still there.
Strange that you should say about the toilet rolls. In a pub in Brandon a lady went to the toilets. She can out very white faced & explained that the toilet rolls started unraveling from the rolls by themselves.
I find it amazing just how many toilets up & down the country have ghost storys attactched to them.
I spoke to a friend about this & was told that spirits can manifest thems selves near water, as well as disperse. Mostly all portals (vortexes) are in the toilet, barthrooms. I find this very interesting.
I have to say that I have never experienced a potal (vortex). I have heard of them but I am still abit sceptical about them.
Have you any experiences of portals (vortexes). Or are you like me, a bit sceptical about them.
I would be interested to know.
Best wishes
Eddie
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12/04/2008, 2:55 PM
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dyingtotalk
Joined on 29/03/2006
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Hi Eddie,
I am very sceptical of the term 'vortex' or 'portal' when applied in this context. I think it is fair to say that there are areas that are more active, or where more people are generally more aware of spirit or some kind of energies. However, my personal belief is that the Spirit World exists 'alongside' our own 'real' world all the time, and I think that the idea of a vortex or portal is one that (here I go again!!) has been latched on to by the media - and this is probably mainly down to the likes of good old Derek (sorry all you Deggsy fans out there)
My main concern about the use of these kind of terms is that people then begin to use them as an easy excuse for explaining any areas that seem to be the centre of activity. We have been to a property where the people have been told that there is a vortex in the child's room, and that they need to move the child to another room for their own safety. In reality the main electricity cupboard for the entire house was located next to the child's bed, and they also had TV, DVD, Radio, Electric Alarm Clock, Playstation ete etc, plus a mobile permanently 'on' all in the same room. The EMF meter went crazy! It is much more likley that this child is sensitive to the huge amount of 'electro-smog' around them - not to mention that when they went to bed they watched or played on these things for a while immediately before bed. This is likely to have also contributed to their broken sleep/nightmares/visions etc. Sorry - gone off topic a bit - but is is so easy for people to catch on to a phrase which they can use, sound impressive, and frighten the pants off the poor person they are talking to!
There certainly were indications of activity in the house - which could be attributed to ghosts/spirits - but not to the extent that the poor kid was in danger from it!
Regarding how often activity is experienced in toilets - I have a few theories - first, often the toilet hasn't always been a toilet - so in some cases the fact it is a loo now may not have anything to do with the activity. But more important I feel is that when you visit a toilet for the obvious uses (!) your brain will often switch to a different 'mode.' After all you don't really need to concentrate on going to the loo. It is one of those (hopefully!) automatic processes - oh dear LOL. What I mean is that you don't have to expend a lot of mental energy on what you are doing. If your mind drifts away, then your brain waves can begin to change, and you are then more susceptible to picking up impressions. If you visit the area from the point of view of 'ghost hunting' they are usually not very restful areas - harsh or dim lighting, cubicles where you are shut in, or cannot easily get out, and you cannot see the rest of the room easily - so naturally that contributes to the atmosphere as well. This could mean people are more susceptible to imagining things - but also of course that their heightened awareness can make them more aware of genuine phenomena.
However, water is often around in some way with paranormal or spiritual experiences - many of the things we do with or near water either relax us so our mind shifts into that 'ready' state - bathing, showering, sitting near water etc., or they are mindless things we can do, that once again we don't have to concentrate on. For instance if you are washing up, you don't think 'Now I will wipe this plate, then I will have to rinse it with clean water - then I'll put it on the draining board etc, etc.' It is another processs which we can do on automatic, so once again out brain is 'ready to receive.'
On the level of looking at the elements (western elements - Earth, Air, Fire, Water) Water is connected with the emotions, the emotional nature, and spiritual/psychic experiences in many cultures and areas of study - I suppose if you consider how much of our body is water, it can perhaps be looked upon as a 'psychic conductor' although I also feel the explanations above about going on auto pilot, or relaxing, probably have a great deal to do with it.
It is interesting about the toilet roll experience this other lady had - perhaps there is a whole litter of puppies associated with a certain toilet roll over on the other side!
Pat
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13/04/2008, 12:47 AM
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Eddie Mallett
Joined on 11/01/2008
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Re: Brentford Nylons/Foton shop, St Giles
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Hi Pat
LOL. It could be. Woof Woof. Giggle
Yes I will agree that I could never get my head around vortexes as an entry from one world to the next. I'm with you on this one, many people think of spirits only coming out at night. I dont know about you but I like to sleep at night & be active in the day time. (That is when my poor old back let me sleep at night. I have bad athritis in my spine & at times is very very painful) I'm sure that a spirit person would have done the same when they were alive. So I'm all for the idea of spirits being around all the time & I am a firm believer of it.
I feel that MH can be blamed for many things that could have perfectly normal explanation. Good Ole Kieran. 'Wink. Smirk'
I also agree with you that most suposed hauntings can be put down to EMF. I have felt the diference in sensations when I have aproached & then stood under power cables, there certainly is a difference. Loved the story of that kid with all those electrical appliances in his bedroom & your poor EMF meter. BZZZZZZZZZZZ. I can na take the power Captain. Giggle.
Very good point about the toilet, not being used as a toilet at the time when the person was alive. I had never thought of that. Cheers I think that that is a good possible explanation. That theorie has been taken on board. Interesting.
Also about the human body make up being mostly water. Even more so after a trip to the pub. Sway, stagger.
One thing that has puzzled me is the very cold sensations in some toilets, that in some cases I have witnessed. In homes that is about the house very warm & the barthroom cold. I suppose that this can be put down to drafts from sink, barth plugs & other air out & inlets but in some cases that I have witnessed the atmosphere of the room seems icy cold, even in Summer time.
Sigh. Strange.
Best wishes
Eddie
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