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07/05/2008, 12:08 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 1,743 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. well, you explain what you mean by sound thrashing then, darcy?   The PNAC speaks of dominace and full dominance spectrum when it comes to spce based weapons systems, equally NASA's 2020 programm encorporates the same values of global control and dominance. These conspiracy theories might be stupid, but they ain't impossible. there are some very good questions and alarm bells that rang weeks before the 9/11 disaster that were ignored, waved off and just 'let happen'.   Guilty by disassociating one'self from acting as one is expected to act? maybe. We will never find out without an  international independent inquiery. Come to that, why was this not ever proposed by the US? with so many different countries involved I would have thought thats the normal thing to do in such a large 'attitude forming' event, so precisely  forecasted by Zbigniev Brezinski to 'bring the world behind US geostrategic moves to project its interests'. The leviathan is walzing all over human rights, borders, tribal differences as well as cultural and religous customs long established.   Our short future will feature more of the same, so they tell us, unless the political empathies are re focused on a sustainable course, without it we are up s*** creek without a paddle. nevermind    Report

07/05/2008, 12:14 PM Darcy Joined on 15/12/2007 Posts 402 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex.  nevermind wrote: well, you explain what you mean by sound thrashing then, darcy?   Oh dear and ho hum.   I shall away. For the truth go to http://www.antifa.org.uk    Report

07/05/2008, 12:19 PM nevermind Joined on 28/05/2007 Posts 1,743 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. Seeking your long lost relatives on a thread like this, Lisa? I am sorry you have gone astray and ended up in the ashtray, most of us are trying to have a debate here, its the ego's that get in the way, when people try and make something out of not very much. I am quiet surprised that nobody has been looking for a lost dog yet, maybe something for the stripy trousered brigade to consider, to have another first on the paranoia forum, what accolade. neverinyourlivedoImind.      Report

07/05/2008, 12:28 PM Jill Joined on 15/08/2005 Norfolk Posts 1,999 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. You need the Community Noticeboard, lisa Dont take things quite so seriously, in the long run, it is only a forum, things come and go Some you like, some you dont    Report

07/05/2008, 12:41 PM Scaramouche Joined on 02/04/2006 obscure Posts 1,396 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex.  nevermind wrote: most of us are trying to have a debate here, its the ego's that get in the way, when people try and make something out of not very much. Once again, wrong word-choice by the Teutonic Master of Malapropisms. I suspect that in an onomatopoeiac sense, on the great debating issue you meant to say mass, when you actually said most ?    Report

07/05/2008, 12:45 PM Bemused Joined on 19/08/2003 Europe Posts 896 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. Lisa, I share your disappointment. We do not deserve an unmoderated forum. But prepare for an attack from those who cry freedom at all costs. I have been so attacked already.   Hasta La Victoria Siempre !    Report

07/05/2008, 12:58 PM Darcy Joined on 15/12/2007 Posts 402 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. This is a forum on a newspaper website. The paper itself on a daily basis covers murders, rapes, child abuse, car crash, thieving idiots, bent cops, nasty racists and the occasional lost christmas turkey. In the words of one great sage "What the **** do you expect,a grease down and a shiatsu?!"   For the truth go to http://www.antifa.org.uk    Report

07/05/2008, 1:15 PM Scaramouche Joined on 02/04/2006 obscure Posts 1,396 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. No, no, no. D'arcy. This is the era of user-generated content, and it's simply not fair to blame Archant for the lack of merit in your contributions. In any case they have enough of their own to worry about. Have you never read (or even grazed)  Let's Talk  ? Now there's an excercise in ephemera that makes Trivial Pursuit read like MasteMind    Report

07/05/2008, 1:32 PM Amy Soyka Joined on 04/04/2008 Posts 181 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. Iran, Syria, North Korea... Bush is derermined to start some kind of nuclear war threat. Israel and Saudi Arabia have already started preparing for full blown middle-eastern war. Also, you are right in saying this is linked to PNAC. Read this, it mostly makes sense. This war on terror is bogus. Dont any of you worry about this counrty becoming more and more like a Big Brother state? (although technically it is defined as a police state now under UN definitions). Read this, it was a report commissioned by the information commisioner UK 2017 Alot of poeple seem to think this is higly unlikely to happen, however, it is that kind of ignorance that usually lets them get away with implimenting this kind of regime. There have been alot of fictional dramas come out recently, trying to convince us that these ideas are just that, fiction. Once you can see through the lies and propeganda though you will eventually find the truth. With Hope. Amy    Report

07/05/2008, 1:43 PM lisa Joined on 03/05/2008 Posts 5 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. "Seeking your long lost relatives on a thread like this, Lisa? I am sorry you have gone astray and ended up in the ashtray, most of us are trying to have a debate here, its the ego's that get in the way, when people try and make something out of not very much. I am quiet surprised that nobody has been looking for a lost dog yet, maybe something for the stripy trousered brigade to consider, to have another first on the paranoia forum, what accolade. neverinyourlivedoImind."   I have actually posted on this forum for information on my husbands mum whom he had lost contact with some years ago. I had thought that maybe, just maybe, there would be a decent human being on this forum who wasn't just posting in aid of a slanging match and would be willing to help others - How wrong i was. It seems the majority of you are just on this forum to cause trouble, mock those who ask for help, which i personally feel is not a healthy debate at all! It's pathetic! Maybe a course in adulthood is needed by many of you, along with a course in politeness and manners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Goodbye and good ridance Norfolk! " src="/cs/emoticons/emotion-39.gif">      Report

07/05/2008, 1:55 PM C C Joined on 21/08/2003 Posts 1,321 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex.  lisa wrote: "Seeking your long lost relatives on a thread like this, Lisa? I am sorry you have gone astray and ended up in the ashtray, most of us are trying to have a debate here, its the ego's that get in the way, when people try and make something out of not very much. I am quiet surprised that nobody has been looking for a lost dog yet, maybe something for the stripy trousered brigade to consider, to have another first on the paranoia forum, what accolade. neverinyourlivedoImind."   I have actually posted on this forum for information on my husbands mum whom he had lost contact with some years ago. I had thought that maybe, just maybe, there would be a decent human being on this forum who wasn't just posting in aid of a slanging match and would be willing to help others - How wrong i was. It seems the majority of you are just on this forum to cause trouble, mock those who ask for help, which i personally feel is not a healthy debate at all! It's pathetic! Maybe a course in adulthood is needed by many of you, along with a course in politeness and manners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Goodbye and good ridance Norfolk! " src="/cs/emoticons/emotion-39.gif">   Sorry Lisa but the clue is in the forum title.  (News Topical discussion; from the corridors of international power to issues on your doorstep.) Perhaps you should be posting on this one: http://new.edp24.co.uk/cs/forums/1531/ShowForum.aspx Reunion Lost touch with friends or family? Post here and maybe they, or someone they know, will discover your post. Subforum(s) ExPats, Workplace, Forces, Friends & Neighbours, Schools, Family History and L... . But why not join in the fun here. Just make yourself a simple tin-foil hat for protection first. Hours of fun guaranteed.    Report

07/05/2008, 2:08 PM Jill Joined on 15/08/2005 Norfolk Posts 1,999 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. lisa With respect to Amy, you have posted off topic on her thread You were directed to the one you require You are entitled to your opinion but in doing so have been just as rude as any of the posters you are complaining about. If you and others want a Jackanory Forum,  you will find it at the BBC      Report

07/05/2008, 2:12 PM Scaramouche Joined on 02/04/2006 obscure Posts 1,396 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. Listen please, Amy SO You Know Absolutely zilch (SOYKA), but that still won't stop you from evangelising. You have absolutely every right in the known universe to hold fast to your beliefs, howsoever futile, inane or simply mispelt. But when you insist on flogging them on public forums like a digitised Jehovah's witness, you stir up an awful lot of other souls, some of whom probably  have an even weaker grip on reality than you do. Certainly poor old Keith will subscribe to almost any conspiracy that helps bolster his own, whilst Nevermind neverknows if it's a plot or not, because he's lost the original (and every subsequent) plot. They're not alone. And then the Jackbooters and Gauleiters and their hysterical detractors join in, because - er, that's what they do. You're probably right, and so of course is Mohammed Al Fayed and all the othetr serial subscribers to the unlikely; but I'd still prefer you took your dubious traffic elsewhere. Ah, but then what do I know? In the words of the best song in Wicked : I'm gonna be pop-u-lar.    Report

07/05/2008, 3:34 PM Amy Soyka Joined on 04/04/2008 Posts 181 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. There are three sides to every coin, but most seem to ignore the thin line that connects the two faces. In other words, most people will have either one opinion or another, when in actual fact the chances are that there is a truth in both. You people can argue all you want, after all you have the right to free speech...alteast for now.    Report

07/05/2008, 7:07 PM Bemused Joined on 19/08/2003 Europe Posts 896 Re: People please wake up - everything that is happening now began in 2001 when the western government implimented their plan to blow up the WTC complex. Amy, you are a voice crying in the wilderness. You may be right but who cares and why should they ? Many will not understand what your message is. Many who do will know they are helpless anyway. This forum is not the best place for your undoubted good intentions and I regret I cannot suggest an alternative.  I wish you well.     Hasta La Victoria Siempre !    Report

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