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   08/05/2008, 3:43 PM
Darcy is not online. Last active: 23/07/2008 10:29:02 Darcy



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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

 Jill wrote:
Well as I am on jury service in the near future, shall I find them guilty of just being wasters or actually committing the crime?

Are you stalking me again dearest Jill?

One would hope that whilst on jury service you were concentrating on the subject at hand as opposed to the philistines on the bench, after all we are yet to be at that juncture when the judiciary are held accountable for any 'crimes'....sadly.

Or is there something in the news I've missed and you are juror on some such jubilatory extravaganza?


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   08/05/2008, 4:09 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

Why pick me out for your imaginings,  Darcy

Several posters have responded on this thread and I am merely one of them

No one knows what lies in store for them on jury service until they attend on the day and I am sure that the judge in charge will not be a philistine but an upholder of the law of this land.

But judges do have a risque reputation for some activities.............................

 


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   08/05/2008, 9:12 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

I am sure that the judge in charge will not be a philistine but an upholder of the law of this land

As long as he isn't on the SIAC?


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   09/05/2008, 3:15 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
 Jill wrote:

Why pick me out for your imaginings,  Darcy

Several posters have responded on this thread and I am merely one of them

No one knows what lies in store for them on jury service until they attend on the day and I am sure that the judge in charge will not be a philistine but an upholder of the law of this land.

But judges do have a risque reputation for some activities.............................

 

So you’ve had a jury summons Jill.

 

First of all let’s dispose of the old adage that “one wouldn’t want to be tried by anyone who hasn’t the initiative to get off jury service”. I had and did, but it doesn’t always work.

 

Otherwise, my sympathies. Expect to be mucked about by court officials, patronised by barristers and browbeaten by judges (although they’ve all learned to be a bit more deferential of late – particularly if there are ‘ethnic minorities’ among the candidates).

 

Do a Google on ‘Bushell’s Case’. Here’s a representative result (there are many others):

 

http://www.flyingfish.org.uk/articles/excuse/lawful.htm

 

and take it from there…

 

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   09/05/2008, 3:27 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

“The present immigration system in the UK cannot distinguish between acceptable immigrants or asylum seekers and mass murderers and until we rid ourselves of the current corruptions in governance, this will not change.”

Quite. Apposite to this topic there’s the recent news item about security at airports where UK applicants for ‘airside’ jobs are subjected to rigorous security checks but foreigners (make of that what you will) are exempted because it’s not feasible to check them for offences etc. committed outside of the UK.

 

The correct, safe and secure solution would be not to employ them at all – but I guess that would be deemed ‘racist’.

 

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   09/05/2008, 7:57 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

Thanks Equitator

I have been selected for jury service, once before many years ago

I was quite cross as I had turned up for many days before actually tasking the oath only to be rejected by the defence as they preferred a male dominated jury because the defendant had held his wife prisoner with a loaded shotgun and they thought women would be on her side.

But I do agree with all the protocol that has to be gone through is a huge bind.

Working for the probation service has also given me an insight into the court system as well as I was a witness on a couple of occasions.


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   09/05/2008, 8:47 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

I hope that those employing unchecked people and the officials responsible for allowing this practice are in law held fully responsible for any subsequent criminal behavior and the cost resulting from it.

The issue should make a very interesting investigation for the media, after all we are seeing the legislation on gang masters beginning to show fruit at last, be it ever so tiny a result.


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   09/05/2008, 10:34 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
 Jill wrote:
Well as I am on jury service in the near future, shall I find them guilty of just being wasters or actually committing the crime?
Please tell me I am wrong, someone who knows, should you not refrain from telling us that you are being called up for jury service, Jill?, I thought that was an activity not to be announce to everyone and sundry on here, are you trying to come off it?
Maybe the EDP will ask you question for you, ie. ' Jill Dewsbury, now on jury service, would like to know whether to convict waster or those actually committing a crime?'
 
Well, you will have no choice in it whatsoever Jill, part and parcel of this wretched and antiquarian judiciary system, you are merely a cog that has to agree with a judge's directions, thats all there is to justice these days.
Oh that and politically expedient policing, the two go hand in hand together, like an old married couple.
I will never do jury service, my reasons for this I will keep private, but then, I don't think that anybody would  want to ever call me up either. nevermind
 
 

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   09/05/2008, 11:12 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
I fear the waster judiciary may throw you in jail Jill! Perhaps Keith Gerard will 'bake you up a cake? He offered me one don't you know!
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   09/05/2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
 Jill wrote:

Why pick me out for your imaginings,  Darcy

 

 

Your responses are recently filled with a particular 'je ne sais quoi' that stands out from the rest of the rabble.


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   09/05/2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

Oh dear poor nevermind

I see the irony of my reply is lost on you again

No one knows when I will be called for jury service and it does not say anything in the booklet about not mentioning it.

It is not that important, but I will do my best to be fair and honest whatever may happen.

However, I agree with you that perhaps you may not be quite the type of person one would want on a jury as a modicum of understanding would be advantageous.


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   09/05/2008, 1:48 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?

However, I agree with you that perhaps you may not be quite the type of person one would want on a jury as a modicum of understanding would be advantageous.

Ouch!

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   09/05/2008, 2:07 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
 Jill wrote:

Oh dear poor nevermind

I see the irony of my reply is lost on you again

No one knows when I will be called for jury service and it does not say anything in the booklet about not mentioning it.

It is not that important, but I will do my best to be fair and honest whatever may happen.

However, I agree with you that perhaps you may not be quite the type of person one would want on a jury as a modicum of understanding would be advantageous.

Understanding what dearest Jill, you are merely a cross section of society, so they say, lets hope it'll be multicultural and you enjoy widening your horizon. nevermind


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   09/05/2008, 2:19 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
How do they go about selecting immigrants for jury service, if they have no way to check their record before they got here?

Dream on

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   09/05/2008, 3:34 PM
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Re: Cultural Exchange? Or Just Exile Them?
Perhaps immigrants don't have to be checked, they do seem to be the 'chosen people' for the politicos and bleeding hearts.
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