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   16/05/2008, 4:46 PM
keith gerrard is not online. Last active: 12/08/2008 22:12:40 keith gerrard



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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?

I think both nevermind and gardener have both put their fingers right on the nub of the problem.

Nevermind correctly points out the continually ongoing need to repair the current sea defenses for the Fens.

Gardener points out the complexity of these defenses and the need to raise the fresh water to allow it to drain to the sea.

The cost of continuing the present defenses will therefore increase in cost year on year as the sea level rises.

Trouble is, the government is not giving sufficient funds to maintain defenses as they are, let alone the mounting millions needed in the future just to stand still.

No matter how complex the plans needed to maintain current defenses, it will make no difference at all to the increasing difficulty of raising water against gravity to succeed in getting it to the sea.

From all the facts so far, it can only be concluded that in economic terms the government considers The Fens Flood Defense as not cost effective in so far as keeping current barriers as a first line of defense. If this was not the case, they would not be considering allowed flooding in a 'so called' controlled fashion, on the suggestion of unelected bodies and environmentalists. Certainly the ever increasing costs of preventing flooding inland as the sea level rises will not be met in the current economic efficiency level associated with the Fens, even from its food production essential to our survival.

In my considered opinion the only conclusion is for the Wash Barrier to be built for the purpose of reclaiming land for a profitable economic purpose. The only other option would be to allow the inevitable flooding of the Fens and a huge amount of Norfolk, Lincolnshire and possibly Cambridgeshire.


Dream on

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   18/05/2008, 4:37 PM
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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?
keith wrote;

In my considered opinion the only conclusion is for the Wash Barrier to be built for the purpose of reclaiming land for a profitable economic purpose. The only other option would be to allow the inevitable flooding of the Fens and a huge amount of Norfolk, Lincolnshire and possibly Cambridgeshire.


That would mean it willnever happen keith until its too late and then they are going to throw concrete at the problem, too fast, we end up with the biggest mistake erected in haste, another fine mess we got ourselves into. nevermind
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   19/05/2008, 6:16 PM
Jill  is not online. Last active: 28/08/2008 07:58:44 Jill



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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?

Can I pose a question regarding the Flood Warning Sirens and would be very grateful for your opinions

If the District and County Councils are responsible for the maintenance of the Sirens and they have fallen into disrepair and are not fit for purpose. are the councils guilty under the Health and Safety Act for not ensuring these warnings are useable?

Also, if they are now saying there is confusion that people are unaware that the Sirens mean evacuate or prepare to evacuate, yet they are responsible for educating their population  regarding this, are they not culpable, again through Health and Safety regulations.

Your opinions are very welcome.


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   19/05/2008, 6:19 PM
keith gerrard is not online. Last active: 12/08/2008 22:12:40 keith gerrard



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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?

This is one for equitator and Scary I think.

IMO they must hold some responsibility but how much I do not know.


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   19/05/2008, 7:53 PM
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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?
I woulkd have thought that any Government body that sets up and maintains a warning system, ie. there must be some maintenance records available proving that they have had some sort of check/test regime, should have the responsibility for the full working order of the equipment, including the mast it sist on.
 
If it is not working and corroded and is not replaced, if looks unsafe and might be a hazard because of it, I think that a parish council, should it come to it, could condemn it and set up a security fence around it, until it has been seen to and made good, only a responsible attitude to take, wouoldn't you think Jill.
 
If Walcott parish council decides tyhat they are not working and the mast is rusty and could fall over, then, please Equitator put me right here, they are obliged to think safety of the population and do something instantly. nevermind

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   20/05/2008, 8:38 AM
Jill  is not online. Last active: 28/08/2008 07:58:44 Jill



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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?

Not quite the story for all these Sirens, nevermind

There are 57 along our coastline, many are old and obsolete and there are no spares and several have failed when tested.

That is the story we are being fed by the Councils who want to scrap them

Rather than replace them with newer technology they want us to go along with the Enviroment Agency warning system which failed so badly last year.

Walcott has only this month elected and started a new parish council, our sirens were working, yet not used.

We know this is political, that is why we want to go down that road of Health and Safety to make them get the Sirens working and up to the standards required to save peoples lives.

After all, councils check up on everyone else.

 


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   20/05/2008, 9:13 AM
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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?
Why not contact the H&S yourselves Jill,you will find them very obliging.John
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   20/05/2008, 11:00 AM
Jill  is not online. Last active: 28/08/2008 07:58:44 Jill



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Re: Shoreline Management - a threat to the Broads?

Thanks john

I  contacted  them yesterday and left an e mail message

There is a ten day waiting period for a reply


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